Q. So why do we need expensive vets for our pets. If the animal is cared for it will stay healthy until it gets old when it should be allowed to die a natural death same as it would in the wild. Or should we employ lots of vets to 'Treat' all the wild animals as well?
A. there are a few ways to look at this.
the first is that there were a lot less conditions/injuries that humans directly caused like dog fighting and such.
another is that they didnt. if you were an animal with a broken leg you were pretty much done do to "survival of the fittest" if you werent fit then you didnt survive.
and along the lines of the previous reason, diseases we see now in animals were wiped out because if they had an ailment then they didnt pass it on to the next generation.
the first is that there were a lot less conditions/injuries that humans directly caused like dog fighting and such.
another is that they didnt. if you were an animal with a broken leg you were pretty much done do to "survival of the fittest" if you werent fit then you didnt survive.
and along the lines of the previous reason, diseases we see now in animals were wiped out because if they had an ailment then they didnt pass it on to the next generation.
Why not pass a bill in congress that creates a line item veto for the president?
Q. It could work like this to remove the politics. Any line item vetoed by the president would return to congress for a stand alone vote. If passed by 60% in both houses it becomes law.
A. What and cut out all the Pork they can add to a Bill that needs Passing and then Bitch that Bush vetoed a Bill to help the Old or Vets even though He Vetoed it because of all the pork , They would never do that , Then how would they get all the Stuff named after their Grand parents in their State .
How would one go about finding out the reliability of a Persian cat breeder who advertises on line?
Q. I want to buy a kitten on line but I am afraid that I will send a ton of money and get nothing back and there will be nothing I can do. Have any ideas?
I might not know about buying a kitten online but I did not say I was absolutely stupid about Persian cats as your response suggests.
I might not know about buying a kitten online but I did not say I was absolutely stupid about Persian cats as your response suggests.
A. Ask a couple of questions. One, pretend that you might be traveling to the area and would like to stop in to meet the kittens and mom cat. A reputable breeder with nothing to hide won't mind. Two, ask for references and check them. Three, as for a vet reference and check that as well. Four, ask for shows that her breeding cats and their offspring have won. People who *should* be breeding have cats that have been proven to be fine specimens of their breed have the show ring ribbons to back it up. They should be showing in the two major breed associations - CFA and/or TICA. The results of the shows are posted on these association's web sites, so that's pretty easy to check out. Five, ask if the breeder if her cats are certified free of PKD.
If you can't find a reputable breeder, keep in mind that Persians are the #1 breed of cat turned in to shelters. You might take a look at your local shelters to see what they might have.
If you can't find a reputable breeder, keep in mind that Persians are the #1 breed of cat turned in to shelters. You might take a look at your local shelters to see what they might have.
When did vets first start diagnosing navicular?
Q. About what time/year did vets discover and diagnose navicular syndrome/disease in horses? How was it originally treated, etc?
It would be a big help if anyone could direct me to professional/reliable websites containing this information. It's for a research report and I just can't seem to find it anywhere.
Thanks =]
It would be a big help if anyone could direct me to professional/reliable websites containing this information. It's for a research report and I just can't seem to find it anywhere.
Thanks =]
A. You have to scroll down a bit to come to it: http://chestofbooks.com/animals/horses/Diseases-Of-The-Horse-Foot/C-Navicular-Disease.html
I'm not familiar with this website, but the literature citations are clear and it's probably trustworthy.
FWIW, it's likely that navicular disease was known and recognized by horsemen earlier than the 1752 citation indicated in the website. Three factors kept it from appearing in the literature earlier: first, it wasn't until at least the 1700's that books became fairly accessible; mass printing of books required a sufficient demand to make printing profitable, and prior to the 1700's, there weren't many people who were literate and could afford to buy books.
Second, prior to about the 1800's at the earliest, there weren't veterinarians per se. There were people who were knowledgeable about horses and the things that could afflict them, but knowledge about horses wasn't considered the stuff of scholarly treatises. There were itinerant horse copers (dealers) who collected knowledge and remedies about horse illnesses and problems and used them in their trade, picking up horses they could patch together cheaply and sell for a profit, but the information these people possessed wasn't formally collected and published.
Third, most of the earliest references to navicular would most likely be in the form of mention in letters people wrote or in the hand-written records kept by people who bred and raised horses. The survival and discovery of this kind of information is mostly by chance and depends on someone somewhere along the line recognizing the significance of what's in the letter or other document and then drawing attention to the document to someone who publishes it.
I think it's pretty likely that although the earliest apparent mention of navicular disease was in the mid-1700's, it was actually pretty well known and familiar to horsemen much earlier, it's just that references to it haven't survived or haven't been recognized.
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BTW, for veterinarians to describe the disease, there first had to be veterinarians! We take it for granted that there have always been vets, but that isn't the case. This website gives some information on the early days of veterinary medicine as a formal academic discipline: http://animalpetdoctor.homestead.com/History1.html
I'm not familiar with this website, but the literature citations are clear and it's probably trustworthy.
FWIW, it's likely that navicular disease was known and recognized by horsemen earlier than the 1752 citation indicated in the website. Three factors kept it from appearing in the literature earlier: first, it wasn't until at least the 1700's that books became fairly accessible; mass printing of books required a sufficient demand to make printing profitable, and prior to the 1700's, there weren't many people who were literate and could afford to buy books.
Second, prior to about the 1800's at the earliest, there weren't veterinarians per se. There were people who were knowledgeable about horses and the things that could afflict them, but knowledge about horses wasn't considered the stuff of scholarly treatises. There were itinerant horse copers (dealers) who collected knowledge and remedies about horse illnesses and problems and used them in their trade, picking up horses they could patch together cheaply and sell for a profit, but the information these people possessed wasn't formally collected and published.
Third, most of the earliest references to navicular would most likely be in the form of mention in letters people wrote or in the hand-written records kept by people who bred and raised horses. The survival and discovery of this kind of information is mostly by chance and depends on someone somewhere along the line recognizing the significance of what's in the letter or other document and then drawing attention to the document to someone who publishes it.
I think it's pretty likely that although the earliest apparent mention of navicular disease was in the mid-1700's, it was actually pretty well known and familiar to horsemen much earlier, it's just that references to it haven't survived or haven't been recognized.
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BTW, for veterinarians to describe the disease, there first had to be veterinarians! We take it for granted that there have always been vets, but that isn't the case. This website gives some information on the early days of veterinary medicine as a formal academic discipline: http://animalpetdoctor.homestead.com/History1.html
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